The massive cyberattack nicknamed Petya has ravaged computers around the world, even knocking out radiation monitoring computers and compromising the U.S. drug company Merck. Like the WannaCry attack in May, it was ransomware that demanded a few hundred dollars in bitcoin to unlock frozen data. To security specialist Golan Ben-Oni, it also had echoes of a lesser-known attack in April on his company, the New Jersey-based conglomerate IDT Corporation. Here & Now‘s Robin Young talks with Ben-Oni (@gbenoni) about the latest attack and his campaign to protect his company against the next one.